On Thursday, May 30th, at 11am Eastern Time, Microsoft 365 MVP Joy Apple (@JoyOfSharePoint) from Orchestry was the guest as fellow MVPs Christian Buckley (@buckleyplanet) and Ragnar Heil (@ragnarh) on the topic of “Making Governance Stick.” This webcast discussed the challenges of managing governance in Microsoft 365 manually versus automated, navigating the complexities of 14 different Admin Centers, and the risks of being over-reliant on a single PowerShell expert instead of redundant and reliable tools. Plus, they put Joy on the spot to tackle the question: How much self-serve governance is the right amount? How can Copilot support repairing a broken life cycle? That episode also delved into the “out-of-the-box-vs-build-vs-automate” debate, offering practical insights for effective M365 governance.